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    Default Whats a typical price for powder coating a frame?

    Is 100 bucks a really good deal? i have a friend whos uncle powder coats and i asked my friend if his uncle would do my frame for 100. Am i being skeet or that just an average good deal. I know its gotta be typically more than that but dont know by how much. also his uncle had asked what color, because that affects the cost, so Im spose to pick the color out of a book, but havent gotten it. you think gold will be expensive? i want either gold, black, or white
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    Quote Originally Posted by gregvhen View Post
    Is 100 bucks a really good deal? i have a friend whos uncle powder coats and i asked my friend if his uncle would do my frame for 100. Am i being skeet or that just an average good deal. I know its gotta be typically more than that but dont know by how much. also his uncle had asked what color, because that affects the cost, so Im spose to pick the color out of a book, but havent gotten it. you think gold will be expensive? i want either gold, black, or white
    Local company here charges $140 regardless of color, unless it is special order. But they have about 50 colors or so that they stock
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    Thats it? wow thats cheap!

    Does that include the prep work? Mine would need sand blasting.

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    That's a pretty good deal if that includes two stage coats..

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    i was told that the heat can warp/weaken your frame from several people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SKETCHY View Post
    i was told that the heat can warp/weaken your frame from several people.
    same go for wheels??? dammnit...i just cant decide between paint or powdercoat for my build

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    I think that is all old wise-tails...I have had two bikes now that have been powdercoated and haven't had the first problem. 100 is a decent price depending on if it is a candy etc etc

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    400 degrees to Aluminum isn't shit. Which is the typical baking temp for powdercoat. If anything, the heat will harden the aluminum more.

    Annealing Annealing should be done at 775 F for 2 to 3 hours followed by controlled cooling at 50 f per hour down to 500 F, then air cool.
    That's what it takes to soften aluminum to make it workable for forming.

    Aging The aging precipitation heat treatment is done at 350 F for 8 hours followed by air cooling. This produces the T6 temper.
    This is how they get aluminum to be T6. Basicly it hardens the aluminum to a specific grade or temper.

    an hour in the powdercoat oven is not gona do that. It really shouldn't have any effect on the aluminum once it's cooled.

    But that's a damn good price for a frame. I got a quote for a bandit frame, 2 stage color, $200 with the foot control plates.
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    I would charge 2-250 to blast, prep, and coat a frame.
    So 100 is a good deal as long as the guy knows what he is doing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by turtle View Post
    I think that is all old wise-tails
    hahaha, the saying is "an old wives tale"

    "400 degrees to Aluminum isn't shit. Which is the typical baking temp for powdercoat. If anything, the heat will harden the aluminum more."

    my frame is steel so i wont have to worry about it.

    Also, do i have to sand it all down to bare metal? or is ok that some of the OEM silver is still on there?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bulletchicken View Post
    Here is the process.

    1. remove parts from bike, remove any nuts/bolts/bearings and any moving parts.
    2. degrease everything really well
    3. sandblast parts, to get everything down to bare metal
    4. use acetone or denatured alcohol to prep metal
    5. use silicon plugs to plug off any holes, threads or bearing races
    6. bake metal to temp to outgas metal and get oils off metal from hands or prepwork
    7. use hi temp tape to cover anything you dont want coated -powdercoat items
    8. bake powder to scheduled temp/time
    9. apply clear and bake again orelse its done if no clear is needed.

    You can get powdercoating supplies just about anywhere.
    example: harbor freight...
    The place you take it to get coated will probably have the silicon plugs and hi temp tape.
    Have them cover your vin with hi temp tape before they coat it as well.

    Hope that helps....
    this is from another thread so i think bare metal is a must

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    Anything less than $200 and you have to be skeptical of what you are getting. Many coaters, especially the ones working out of their garage with their dead grandmas oven, are not sand blasting. sand blasting is critical if you want the coating to last more than a couple months. You get what you pay for. Does that price include masking? Some frames can take you an easy 30 minutes just to mask them off. I have large plugs for some threaded holes which saves time, but they are tapered and close the gap for me to spray powder in so that will leave ugly thin spots in the recessed holes in the side of your frame. Who wants that? MY COST for enough powder to do a frame and swing arm in any 2 stage color is roughly $100.00-120. chrome base and candy colors are roughly $20/lb, my in-stock blacks which I feel are better quality cost me $3.00-$5.00/lb since I buy large boxes. Any powder bought by the pound is gonna cost you $8.00-$15 on average for a solid tone. There are tons of price sheets online that you can look up to get a rough idea on what it should cost, some are confusing because they dont have blasting included, thats sometimes listed separate. an F4i frame takes about 15 minutes to blast, many shops are gonna charge you $40-$50 just to blast a frame. A 636 frame has slighly tougher paint so it takes alittle longer, The last one I did took me a little over 30 minutes but I used really fine media so that the end product was as smooth as I could get it. The process is time consuming to have it done right. Its not as easy as squirting powder and baking.

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    Default Powder coat frame..

    $100 is cheap , if that includes stripping/blasting ,Prep and Coating..

    I charge $200 to strip/Blast,Prep and coat in a single Solid color.. White,Black,Red ect.. $300 in a Metallic or candy color..

    Yes Gold will be More then white or Black, Because its considered a Two color Because it Requires a Clear Topcoat...

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    If not glass beads then what? Im just about to make my own blast cabinet so would like to get the right stuff from the off. (my powder coater does not do any blasting) Is it hard to set up your own powder coating booth?
    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teach View Post
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    Originally Posted by bulletchicken
    Here is the process.

    1. remove parts from bike, remove any nuts/bolts/bearings and any moving parts.
    2. degrease everything really well
    3. sandblast parts, to get everything down to bare metal
    4. use acetone or denatured alcohol to prep metal WRONG! I was really hoping someone would have mentioned mineral spirits, that would most definately earn a kick in the dick. Professional coaters buy professional chemicals designed for coatings. Not a $10 can of sauce from Menards.
    5. use silicon plugs to plug off any holes, threads or bearing races
    6. bake metal to temp to outgas metal and get oils off metal from hands or prepwork only cast metals need to be outgassed and an ordinary curing oven wont get parts hot enough to burn off oil, finger oils shouldnt be present to begin with. (poor material handling)
    7. use hi temp tape to cover anything you dont want coated -powdercoat items
    8. bake powder to scheduled temp/time
    9. apply clear and bake again orelse its done if no clear is needed.

    You can get powdercoating supplies just about anywhere.
    example: harbor freight... <------- Gaaaaaaaaarbage
    The place you take it to get coated will probably have the silicon plugs and hi temp tape.
    Have them cover your vin with hi temp tape before they coat it as well. lol.... amateurs.... a nice making tape skid mark over the vin is always attractive!

    Hope that helps....
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    I'm not trying rag on anyone, too many people have been misinformed on this process thanks to companies like Eastwood, Columbia coatings, powder by the pound.... they dont care if its done right, all they care about is selling to the consumer that doesnt know any better. They draw people in with the "do it yourself and save money" bullshit. They also dont tell you critical information like the importance of proper media blasting and what it costs to get setup to media blast in a timely fashion. I leaned the hard way. I blasted 2 frames with a small harbor freight blast pot, took each one 6 hours to blast with a 40lb pot and 12.6 CFM air compressor that cost me $950. The blast room I use now would cost someone $100,000 easy and that same frame I could fully blast in about 15 minutes. The frames were machine frames and just needed the pickling/mill scale blasted off, thank god there was nothing more! I would have shot myself if it took any longer. Most of that time was not blast time but was refilling the 40lb pot. Took longer to empty it out. PROPER chemical treatment is also important along with blasting to meet ASTM B117-09 testing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HPPowdercoating View Post
    $100 is cheap , if that includes stripping/blasting ,Prep and Coating..

    I charge $200 to strip/Blast,Prep and coat in a single Solid color.. White,Black,Red ect.. $300 in a Metallic or candy color..

    Yes Gold will be More then white or Black, Because its considered a Two color Because it Requires a Clear Topcoat...

    " The bitterness of poor quality remains long after low pricing is forgotten!
    not all gold powders require a clear, a non epoxy gold is difficult to find.

    Quote Originally Posted by SBS Pez View Post
    If not glass beads then what? Im just about to make my own blast cabinet so would like to get the right stuff from the off. (my powder coater does not do any blasting) Is it hard to set up your own powder coating booth?
    Thanks
    Dont waste your time unless you have $$$$ to dump into it. Aluminum oxide is the best media to use to keep a soft blasting profile which is critical for powder coating, especially on aluminum. A budget gun to blast aluminum oxide will burn through a ceramic tip in about 20 minutes. They make carbide ones, they last longer but the inside of the gun still wears, you'd have to spend around $250+ for a Trinco gun that is operated with a foot pedal, its a heavy brass gun with a thick carbide nozzle. Empire also makes them they are even more expensive from them. You can use fine mesh black sand/slag at lower pressure, still gonna eat up tips but not as fast as aluminum oxide. Slag doesnt break down as fast as aluminum oxide, the grains of sand get rounded as its reused. Aluminum oxide breaks down to finer grit but always has a fresh cutting edge. These medias are also heavier than glass so they dont work as well in a typical siphon feed cabinet which is probably the #1 reason that people use glass beads in them. You get a continuous flow a media instead of a pulsing action like you see with the heavier medias. Any media finer will just get sucked up by your dust collector.
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    ^^thanks. Im in the Uk and will look into it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YSRRider View Post
    Originally Posted by bulletchicken
    Here is the process.

    1. remove parts from bike, remove any nuts/bolts/bearings and any moving parts.
    2. degrease everything really well
    3. sandblast parts, to get everything down to bare metal
    4. use acetone or denatured alcohol to prep metal WRONG! I was really hoping someone would have mentioned mineral spirits, that would most definately earn a kick in the dick. Professional coaters buy professional chemicals designed for coatings. Not a $10 can of sauce from Menards.
    5. use silicon plugs to plug off any holes, threads or bearing races
    6. bake metal to temp to outgas metal and get oils off metal from hands or prepwork only cast metals need to be outgassed and an ordinary curing oven wont get parts hot enough to burn off oil, finger oils shouldnt be present to begin with. (poor material handling)
    7. use hi temp tape to cover anything you dont want coated -powdercoat items
    8. bake powder to scheduled temp/time
    9. apply clear and bake again orelse its done if no clear is needed.

    You can get powdercoating supplies just about anywhere.
    example: harbor freight... <------- Gaaaaaaaaarbage
    The place you take it to get coated will probably have the silicon plugs and hi temp tape.
    Have them cover your vin with hi temp tape before they coat it as well. lol.... amateurs.... a nice making tape skid mark over the vin is always attractive!

    Hope that helps....
    -------------------------------------------------
    I'm not trying rag on anyone, too many people have been misinformed on this process thanks to companies like Eastwood, Columbia coatings, powder by the pound.... they dont care if its done right, all they care about is selling to the consumer that doesnt know any better. They draw people in with the "do it yourself and save money" bullshit. They also dont tell you critical information like the importance of proper media blasting and what it costs to get setup to media blast in a timely fashion. I leaned the hard way. I blasted 2 frames with a small harbor freight blast pot, took each one 6 hours to blast with a 40lb pot and 12.6 CFM air compressor that cost me $950. The blast room I use now would cost someone $100,000 easy and that same frame I could fully blast in about 15 minutes. The frames were machine frames and just needed the pickling/mill scale blasted off, thank god there was nothing more! I would have shot myself if it took any longer. Most of that time was not blast time but was refilling the 40lb pot. Took longer to empty it out. PROPER chemical treatment is also important along with blasting to meet ASTM B117-09 testing.
    This is my home process...
    I am still in the learning phase of this myself.
    your right.. professional coaters, that do this for a living.....pay the big bucks for better equipment and material.
    mineral spirits work also....
    dont know what the fuck menards is.. sounds like a gay guy store.
    your right about outgassing most metals, another reason you would outgas anything, is to hot flock (spray hot) for multiple coats, or if you dont have a thousand dollar gun...
    and yes, harbor freight does sell some inferior shit, but for the home coater.. its plenty good enough at a good value.

    Oh, and it sounds like your a professional powder coater... thanks for the tips and being nice about it dick! :P
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    Shit place we have here does everything for $300 unless it's already powdercoated and needs to be stripped.. That' includes candy type coats and such

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